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StopTheLie News 10-02-2006

9/11 Panel Members Weren't Told of Meeting
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON, Oct. 2 - Members of the Sept. 11 commission said today that they were alarmed that they were told nothing about a White House meeting in July 2001 at which George J. Tenet, then the director of central intelligence, is reported to have warned Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser, about an imminent Al Qaeda attack and failed to persuade her to take action.

Details of the previously undisclosed meeting on July 10, 2001, two months before the Sept. 11 terror attacks, were first reported last week in a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward. The final report from the Sept. 11 commission made no mention of the meeting nor did it suggest there had been such an encounter between Mr. Tenet and Ms. Rice, now secretary of state.
Read full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/washington/01cnd-book.html?ei=5090&en=beb29e8f20ad8f76&ex=1317355200&partner=rssuserland&emc=r

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 Accessories to Torture
Source: The Nation
These are grim days for the Constitution. The House and the Senate have passed the catastrophic "compromise" negotiated by senators McCain & Co. to the President's "enemy combatants" bill. The only thing compromised is the rule of law; the bill still strips detainees of the right to appeal, broadens the President's unilateral powers to decide who is an enemy and which interrogation methods violate the Geneva Conventions, and fatally undermines the War Crimes Act. The bill was rushed to passage just days after the Canadian government exonerated Maher Arar, "rendered" by the United States to Syria, imprisoned and tortured for nearly a year.
Read full article at: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061016/editors2

COMMENT: Senate Votes:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00259

House Votes:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll491.xml

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So, are you an "Enemy Combatant?"
Source: Prison Planet
-This is another telltale facet that proves the bill applies to U.S. citizens and includes them under the "enemy combatant" designation. We previously cited the comments of Yale law Professor Bruce Ackerman, who wrote in the L.A. Times, "The compromise legislation....authorizes the president to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States. And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights."

The New York Times stated that the legislation introduced, "A dangerously broad definition of "illegal enemy combatant" in the bill could subject legal residents of the United States, as well as foreign citizens living in their own countries, to summary arrest and indefinite detention with no hope of appeal. The president could give the power to apply this label to anyone he wanted."

-The bill also allows hearsay evidence (obtained via phony confessions after torture) to be considered by the military tribunal and bars the suspect from even having knowledge of the charges against him - making a case for defense impossible. This is guaranteed to produce 100% conviction rates as you would expect in the dictatorships of Uzbekistan or Zimbabwe...
Read full article at: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/290906torturebill.htm

COMMENT: Oh, the irony! Imagine if Bush and his gang of lawless thugs have, inadvertently, exposed themselves to possible "enemy combatant" status. I bet they won't like the new "procedures" half as much if / when they're used against them.  

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Your Time Will Come  (CNN Video included with comment)
Source: CNN
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Watch video at: http://www.stopthelie.com/your_time_will_come.html

COMMENT: I have a message for every spineless coward in Washington DC. I have a message for each and every one of the shameless "representatives" who've betrayed the people of this nation. That message is: Your time will come.

Soon you will realize you've gambled, and lost. Soon, you will realize the American people are not nearly as weak, cowardly, corrupt and ignorant as you'd hoped. Soon you'll realize, when you chose to serve those raping our country from end to end, you sealed your fate.

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Interviewed by Dino Costa (Audio)
Source: Joe Plummer (StopTheLie.com)
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Listen to audio at: http://tree3.com/sound/dino2.mp3

COMMENT: I got an email yesterday morning asking if I wanted to be on a Radio Show in Colorado. Aside from the fact I had to do the interview on my cell phone (which had the effect of making me sound like an elderly woman) overall it went pretty well. Mike Berger from 911truth.org was also on the line. He brought a lot of excellent information to the table.

The link above is for the "higher quality" audio file (20 meg.) If you're on a dial up, this file is only about 7 meg: http://tree3.com/sound/dino2dup.mp3

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The Antifederalists Were Right
Source: Mises.org
The Antifederalists were opponents of ratifying the US Constitution. They feared that it would create an overbearing central government, while the Constitution's proponents promised that this would not happen. As the losers in that debate, (the Antifederalists) are largely overlooked today. But that does not mean they were wrong or that we are not indebted to them.

-The Antifederalists warned us that the cost Americans would bear in both liberty and resources for the government that would evolve under the Constitution would rise sharply. That is why their objections led to the Bill of Rights, to limit that tendency (though with far too little success that has survived to the present).

Antifederalists opposed the Constitution on the grounds that its checks on federal power would be undermined by expansive interpretations of promoting the "general welfare" (which would be claimed for every law) and the "all laws necessary and proper" clause (which would be used to override limits on delegated federal powers), creating a federal government with unwarranted and undelegated powers that were bound to be abused.
Read full article at: http://www.mises.org/story/2335

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U.S. gets 'Sovietized'
Source: Toronto Sun
In the late 1980s, I was the first western journalist allowed into the world's most dreaded prison, Moscow's sinister Lubyanka. Muscovites dared not even utter the name of KGB's headquarters, calling it instead after a nearby toy store, "Detsky Mir."

I still shudder recalling Lubyanka's underground cells, grim interrogation rooms, and execution cellars where tens of thousands were tortured and shot. I sat at the desk from which the monsters who ran Cheka (Soviet secret police) - Dzerzhinsky, Yagoda, Yezhov, Beria - ordered 30 million victims to their deaths.

Prisoners taken in the dead of night to Lubyanka were systematically beaten for days with rubber hoses and clubs. There were special cold rooms where prisoners could be frozen to near death. Sleep deprivation was a favourite and most effective Cheka technique. So was near-drowning in water fouled with urine and feces.

-We have seen America's president and vice president, sworn to uphold the Constitution, advocating some of the same interrogation techniques the KGB used at the Lubyanka. They apparently believe beating, freezing, sleep deprivation and near-drowning are necessary to prevent terrorist attacks. So did Stalin.
Read full article at: http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2006/09/24/pf-1888587.html

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Fear the October Surprise
Source: 321 Gold
If Bush is stupid enough to attack Iran, it won't take months for Americans to realize we have lost the war as was the case with Iraq, we will be able to figure it out in a couple of days. You won't be able to give dollars away and gold is going through the roof as our economy collapses and our form of government disappears. These clowns have lost three wars in a row. Am I the only person to see signs of a pattern here?

It wasn't Adolph Hitler who paid the price for WW II and his illegal war of aggression, it was the German people. We simply cannot torture and murder people on a wholesale basis without paying the butcher's bill.
Read full article at: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/comment/20060927.html

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Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9/11 Story
Source: Prison Planet
Former Minnesota Governor, actor and wrestling star Jesse Ventura has publicly questioned the official version of events behind 9/11 and gone further than ever before in citing Operation Northwoods and the Gulf of Tonkin as examples of how the government has planned and carried out staged war provocations in the past.

Ventura has temporarily left his Baja Mexico surfing lifestyle to lend support to Texas gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman. At a press conference yesterday Ventura said that the Republicans and Democrats were "destroying our country" and its political process. Sporting a beard and dreadlocks, the former Vietnam veteran also criticized the Iraq war.
Read full article at: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/260906venturaquestions.htm

COMMENT: First; this administration FOUGHT having an investigation tooth and nail; that right there should tell you something. Second, the "investigation" we finally got was a complete joke (don't believe me, read some of the comments of those who were actually involved in it.) Third, how many times does somebody have to lie to your face before you STOP listening to what they say? Only a pathological idiot continues to trust a group of pathological liars.

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Documents disclose 'shadow government'
Source: World Net Daily
Government documents released by a Freedom of Information Act request reveal the Bush administration is running a "shadow government" with Mexico and Canada in which the U.S. is crafting a broad range of policy in conjunction with its neighbors to the north and south, asserts WND columnist and author Jerome R. Corsi.

The documents, a total of about 1,000 pages, are among the first to be released to Corsi through his FOIA request to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, which describes itself as an initiative "to increase security and to enhance prosperity among the three countries through greater cooperation."

"The documents clearly reveal that SPP, working within the U.S. Department of Commerce, is far advanced in putting together a new regional infrastructure, creating a 'shadow' trilateral bureaucracy with Mexico and Canada that is aggressively rewriting a wide range of U.S. administrative law, all without congressional oversight or public disclosure," Corsi said.
Read full article at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52164

COMMENT: Secretly iron out all the details now and then they'll ram it down our throats following the next "terrorist attack."  Goodbye America, Hello "Amexida"

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Send a message to Congress TODAY.
Source: DownSize DC
We hate to sound apocalyptic. We loathe the politics of fear (even if it works!). So we're not looking to scare you. But you need to know that the end is near for "archaic" ideas like . . .

* the right to security in your home and papers
* the right to be free from unreasonable searches
* the safety net of judicial warrant requirements
* the right to a trial by a jury of your peers in a system of due process
* reasonable bail and recourse for false arrest
* protection from cruel and unusual punishment

And the news on the Tribunal/Torture bill just got worse. There was a "lesser evil" version of this bill from Senators Warner and McCain, but Warner and McCain just rolled over. The new bill will . . .

* Allow the President to detain people indefinitely without charges,
* Deny detainees access to courts to challenge their detention or their treatment.
* Create special military tribunals with reduced standards of due process
* Deny detainees the protection of the Geneva Convention's Common Article 3
* Allow the President to define torture 

But you may not hear it reported this way in the media, because the politicians are playing clever games with words. Take note: The protections of Common Article 3 aren't defined in the legislation, so Congress can claim they've left these protections in place. But it isn't true, because now only the President decides what those protections actually are, and no accused person can even claim the protection of Common Article 3 before the special tribunals this legislation creates.

 These bills will pass in the House, but we need to have as many votes against them as we can muster. This will help us in the Senate. Senate rules make it possible for us to stop these bills in that chamber. YOU need to make a BIG NOISE. And know this:
You won't be alone. We're working with more than a dozen national organizations to make this BIG NOISE.
Read full article at: http://stopthelie.com/downsize_dc_9-25-06.html

COMMENT: Join DownSize DC, it only takes a minute. From then on you can send a message with the click of a button. Here is what I sent my representatives today:

This country faces a grave and dangerous threat; and it isn't coming from "terrorists."

The NeoCons (Once known in Washington as "the crazies") somehow managed to get into positions of power. They then used 9/11 to hijack our foreign and domestic policy. Hiding behind their fraudulent "war on terror" they are destroying what's left of this country. Bit by bit, piece by piece, they are leading us into the darkness of Soviet style "security" and endless war.

What power do these men possess? What in God's name could be so terrifying that they've cowed Congress into submission? How can our "representatives" sit idly by as they rape this country's Constitution and Bill of Rights? I don't understand. Why has nobody stopped these betrayers of America? How much more are "We The People" expected to tolerate?

Please help us protect this country from ALL enemies...

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Using message boards to our advantage
Source: Joe Plummer (StopTheLie.com)
Message boards provide an excellent opportunity to "make our case" for a new investigation into the events of 911. By putting our strongest evidence and arguments out there (and addressing common disinformation) we're providing all other like-minded individuals information they can use.  In the end, it really isn't about the people we're arguing with on the board itself (although occasionally they do come around) more it's about everyone else. -Some example arguments appear below:

"The best reason we have for doubting the accuracy of the official account is the source of that account itself. (That is to say: The same source that linked Saddam to 911, to OBL, to the anthrax attacks, and to WMD; the same source that has been "wrong" about innumerable other claims presented as "fact.") Call me crazy, but I'm distrustful of any individual or institution that gives me inaccurate or misleading information on a regular basis. (Yes, this includes those who claim to be involved in the "911 Truth Movement.")

As far as evidence goes (that the government is lying) the body of evidence is "greater than the sum of its parts." From a string of implausible "intelligence failures" that permitted the attacks, to the fact nobody was ever held accountable for negligence and some were actually promoted. From the administrations deliberate attempt to derail an investigation; to the way in which the shoe-string "Commission" was eventually assembled and directed. From being told repeatedly "nobody could have ever imagined this" to the fact military drills mimicking precisely a 9/11 style attack (Jets as weapons flown into the WTC) were conducted years prior to the actual event. Moreover, multiple drills of this type were being run on 9/11 itself. -but we're to accept it was "never imagined."

Each of these pieces paint a clear picture of deception and we need to get to the bottom of why. There could be many reasons I suppose, but when you look at how the attacks have been used to completely transform foreign and domestic policy; it would be foolish to ignore the worst case scenario. If you research the history of state sponsored "false-flag terrorism," the absurdity of NOT considering all the angles becomes even more apparent."
Read full article at: http://stopthelie.com/bill_mahers_message_board.html

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